1 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:45,340 --> 00:00:41,860 explode the bazaars or e-ticket ride 3 00:00:48,210 --> 00:00:45,350 into the world of the paranoid strap 4 00:00:52,930 --> 00:00:48,220 yourself in as we traverse the universe 5 00:00:55,049 --> 00:00:52,940 exploring the unexplained UFO s ghosts 6 00:00:57,430 --> 00:00:55,059 Lost Worlds 7 00:01:01,270 --> 00:00:57,440 cryptozoology as well as other 8 00:01:06,430 --> 00:01:01,280 dimensions it's time to take back the 9 00:01:09,550 --> 00:01:06,440 night now your electrifying hosts of 10 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:09,560 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 11 00:01:20,859 --> 00:01:16,880 Tim's you know I was thinking that for 12 00:01:47,529 --> 00:01:20,869 tonight what are you do it with your 13 00:01:50,699 --> 00:01:47,539 head stuck in that microwave ok ok I 14 00:01:54,419 --> 00:01:50,709 think we have an emergency here let me 15 00:01:56,889 --> 00:01:54,429 maybe I should call the fire department 16 00:01:59,559 --> 00:01:56,899 we'll wait let me let me try to get it 17 00:01:59,980 --> 00:01:59,569 off of you but but don't try not to 18 00:02:02,139 --> 00:01:59,990 think 19 00:02:11,559 --> 00:02:02,149 clear your mind you don't want them you 20 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:11,569 don't want them to read your mind well 21 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:14,209 maybe maybe Tina can help us back at the 22 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:27,410 KC or our studio oh Jesus and they had 23 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:30,800 they had to heat up real high that's too 24 00:02:37,660 --> 00:02:33,489 late they've already read your mind oh 25 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:37,670 Jesus I hope they're satisfied well you 26 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:39,650 know that you get what you deserve you 27 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:41,810 get what you pay for that's what I I 28 00:02:46,539 --> 00:02:44,510 swear you know and I I tried to put that 29 00:02:48,399 --> 00:02:46,549 microwave up high enough so that they 30 00:02:50,780 --> 00:02:48,409 they couldn't get to me but yeah you 31 00:02:54,110 --> 00:02:50,790 know those those bastards in 32 00:02:56,839 --> 00:02:54,120 Washington I I mean they they'll do it 33 00:03:03,440 --> 00:02:56,849 they'll do anything just to ruin your 34 00:03:06,559 --> 00:03:03,450 life well it's true but I guess the you 35 00:03:10,339 --> 00:03:06,569 know they don't have to use microwaves 36 00:03:12,890 --> 00:03:10,349 or our other hidden devices to read our 37 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:12,900 minds all they have to do is tune in 38 00:03:18,530 --> 00:03:15,510 every Thursday night to listen to 39 00:03:25,210 --> 00:03:18,540 exploring the bizarre good god I'm gonna 40 00:03:27,679 --> 00:03:25,220 get you a violin or maybe Tina Tina the 41 00:03:30,349 --> 00:03:27,689 producer with the mostest maybe she 42 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:30,359 ought to get you the violin but all 43 00:03:35,659 --> 00:03:33,090 right okay we've had it we've had a busy 44 00:03:38,270 --> 00:03:35,669 week I I know I'm almost finished with 45 00:03:42,830 --> 00:03:38,280 working with mr. Kern here bill Kern 46 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:42,840 with the UFOs deja vu what a book if you 47 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:45,450 think we're taking bids on who's going 48 00:03:49,339 --> 00:03:47,489 to have the thickest book the thicker 49 00:03:52,009 --> 00:03:49,349 book the one that you're working on 50 00:03:53,539 --> 00:03:52,019 incredible encounters or the one that 51 00:03:56,210 --> 00:03:53,549 we're finishing up on and they're both 52 00:03:58,819 --> 00:03:56,220 of them are gonna be close if not over 53 00:04:01,879 --> 00:03:58,829 400 pages bill tells me his computers 54 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:01,889 crashed about five times already and you 55 00:04:08,409 --> 00:04:04,049 lost the heart and you lost the hard 56 00:04:11,890 --> 00:04:08,419 drive yeah that's right that's right the 57 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:11,900 book I'm working on incredible 58 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:15,810 encounters yeah that that that took out 59 00:04:20,270 --> 00:04:18,000 the hard drive on my old computer while 60 00:04:22,189 --> 00:04:20,280 I baby I can't man I can't really blame 61 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:22,199 the book they you know my old computer 62 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:26,370 was on its last legs anyway but but I 63 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:28,800 did I tell you to you know incredible 64 00:04:34,129 --> 00:04:30,449 encounters the book that I'm working on 65 00:04:36,860 --> 00:04:34,139 you know it is so full of fantastic 66 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:36,870 information and it's it and it's a 67 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:39,330 graphic heavy as well there's a lot of 68 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:41,490 really interesting photos the graphic 69 00:04:49,939 --> 00:04:44,370 like selected like there's naked couples 70 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:49,949 no I guess that's are screwed yeah 71 00:04:55,339 --> 00:04:52,400 that's yeah that's that's correct yes 72 00:04:59,629 --> 00:04:55,349 anyway enough for this that 73 00:05:04,010 --> 00:04:59,639 chitter-chatter it's time to go deep 74 00:05:04,670 --> 00:05:04,020 stake deep underground because we've got 75 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:04,680 the mass 76 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:08,330 of conspiracies on all the way from 77 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:12,060 Braxton Braxton England I use that word 78 00:05:18,770 --> 00:05:15,840 yeah who do we have tonight come on Tim 79 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:18,780 let's get going here and tell the world 80 00:05:24,379 --> 00:05:22,530 tell the world who knew and what this is 81 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:24,389 all about all right well we're 82 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:26,250 journeying across the pond to talk to 83 00:05:34,249 --> 00:05:30,570 our old friend Ben Emelin Jones now Ben 84 00:05:36,650 --> 00:05:34,259 is a reporter right so now Ben is a 85 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:36,660 researcher blogger and filmmaker on 86 00:05:43,339 --> 00:05:38,720 controversial subjects on his blog 87 00:05:45,469 --> 00:05:43,349 website HPA NWO which stands for 88 00:05:46,249 --> 00:05:45,479 hospital Porter's against the New World 89 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:46,259 Order 90 00:05:51,710 --> 00:05:49,050 now Ben's website is dedicated to the 91 00:05:53,629 --> 00:05:51,720 latest news views and reviews of the 92 00:05:56,930 --> 00:05:53,639 world of government cover MOT cover-ups 93 00:06:00,070 --> 00:05:56,940 ghosts UFOs paranormal investigation 94 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:00,080 hidden knowledge forbidden history and 95 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:03,570 archeology chemtrails and even Hospital 96 00:06:09,379 --> 00:06:06,419 Porter's he also post videos containing 97 00:06:13,070 --> 00:06:09,389 his political comments and often uses 98 00:06:15,890 --> 00:06:13,080 satirical characters to get his point 99 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:15,900 across so Ben thank you very much for 100 00:06:20,050 --> 00:06:16,620 being with us 101 00:06:25,550 --> 00:06:20,060 once again on exploring the bizarre oh 102 00:06:27,260 --> 00:06:25,560 great good we'd shake hands with you or 103 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:27,270 give you a high-five but I guess we're a 104 00:06:34,339 --> 00:06:30,630 little bit too far away to to do that at 105 00:06:39,710 --> 00:06:34,349 the at the moment all right hey big hug 106 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:39,720 yeah hey hey give you squeeze there - is 107 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:43,409 it Friday night already right it's it's 108 00:06:48,860 --> 00:06:46,110 actually up in the morning every rendang 109 00:06:50,570 --> 00:06:48,870 for Friday morning yes that's right now 110 00:06:53,210 --> 00:06:50,580 where were you speaking to us from where 111 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:53,220 what were you located exactly I'm from 112 00:07:00,620 --> 00:06:55,860 the dreaming spires of Oxford but not in 113 00:07:03,230 --> 00:07:00,630 the university yeah but you've been 114 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:03,240 cracking the books I understand well 115 00:07:09,290 --> 00:07:05,370 yeah I've been watching since I talked 116 00:07:12,110 --> 00:07:09,300 to you last I've written the concluding 117 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:12,120 part of the Roswell trilogy that's my 118 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:16,500 three days Roswell and how many how many 119 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:18,510 pages is that all together 120 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:20,730 I'll deets all together it's so it's 121 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:23,130 about hundred and something pages well 122 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:25,800 the first one I've got here is oh three 123 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:28,290 hundred and eighty-five pages the first 124 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:29,310 one the other two are about the same 125 00:07:34,940 --> 00:07:32,490 length and it's rolled right in Roswell 126 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:34,950 revealed and Roswell redeemed and and 127 00:07:38,090 --> 00:07:36,210 then the first one's called a novel of 128 00:07:40,340 --> 00:07:38,100 disclosure Roswell revealed a world 129 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:40,350 after disclosure and Roswell redeemed 130 00:07:45,950 --> 00:07:43,260 humanity after disclosure and I thought 131 00:07:49,490 --> 00:07:45,960 was Roswell Roswell will never be 132 00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:49,500 redeemed I mean is it okay this this is 133 00:07:55,970 --> 00:07:52,740 a novel but do you base this all on 134 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:55,980 legitimate or illegitimate research oh 135 00:08:02,090 --> 00:07:58,890 yes very much so it's a it's a fictional 136 00:08:04,010 --> 00:08:02,100 allegory it's intended to tell her tell 137 00:08:07,580 --> 00:08:04,020 the truth through a story the story is 138 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:07,590 about this idea about UFOs as you know I 139 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:09,900 believe that the government has decisive 140 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:11,970 physical evidence though of 141 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:14,130 extraterrestrial contact with our 142 00:08:18,190 --> 00:08:16,950 species on this planet and of course 143 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:18,200 they're keeping that quiet from us 144 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:20,730 keeping it secret so I thought to myself 145 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:22,170 well what if we have the truth instead 146 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:24,000 of the secrecy and that little question 147 00:08:28,010 --> 00:08:25,770 that we're trying a thought which 148 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:28,020 eventually ended up in a story and the 149 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:29,850 story is what I wrote about in these 150 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:32,790 three novels so I'm pleased with that 151 00:08:38,180 --> 00:08:34,169 actually let's start writing something 152 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:38,190 new now which I have done Wow so would 153 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:43,700 you say that it's oh you're you're a ETH 154 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:49,290 individual yes definitely obviously you 155 00:08:54,740 --> 00:08:51,750 and I part company on that because I I 156 00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:54,750 think that the the crash in Roswell was 157 00:08:59,270 --> 00:08:57,570 there some sort of a German made device 158 00:09:01,880 --> 00:08:59,280 and that the government covered this up 159 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:01,890 because they didn't want the public to 160 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:04,200 realize it they were in collusion would 161 00:09:10,220 --> 00:09:07,620 Nazi war criminals well you know my 162 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:10,230 theory yeah but you know that I suppose 163 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:13,140 that's a possibility because they they 164 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:14,940 were in collaboration with the Nazis I 165 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:16,890 mean they brought a load some over in 166 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,410 terms of Operation Paperclip large 167 00:09:22,580 --> 00:09:21,120 numbers of Nazi scientists were brought 168 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:22,590 over from Germany someone who works 169 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:24,630 under fake names some of them were works 170 00:09:29,510 --> 00:09:26,250 openly like vana von Braun who designed 171 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:29,520 the rockets for NASA and others some use 172 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:31,120 of faintness so I had their war cry 173 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:33,970 records deleted and Snowbasin given new 174 00:09:39,510 --> 00:09:36,910 life so I suppose it's an interesting 175 00:09:40,950 --> 00:09:39,520 idea and it may turn out to be true you 176 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:40,960 never know everything else way to say 177 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:42,610 well I don't I don't know as if we'll 178 00:09:49,079 --> 00:09:44,529 ever know the truth about Roswell 179 00:09:53,550 --> 00:09:49,089 because it's so many years ago now it's 180 00:09:57,450 --> 00:09:53,560 been very deep in the in the literally 181 00:10:01,050 --> 00:09:57,460 in the sands of New Mexico and anybody 182 00:10:03,210 --> 00:10:01,060 who might have been there at this point 183 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:03,220 is probably in the sands of New Mexico 184 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:07,510 as as well and unfortunately for them so 185 00:10:12,930 --> 00:10:10,690 IIIi don't know where's the Mogul 186 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:12,940 balloon well what's left of the mogul 187 00:10:16,290 --> 00:10:14,529 balloon hey that would be a good thing 188 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:16,300 to sell on eBay can you imagine what 189 00:10:21,810 --> 00:10:19,210 that would think if we had a mogul 190 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:21,820 balloon right well you know when I when 191 00:10:25,829 --> 00:10:23,350 they year did their so-called final 192 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:25,839 declassification in 1997 there were 193 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:28,570 fragments of this alleged balloon in 194 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:30,190 present within the within the files 195 00:10:33,390 --> 00:10:31,870 within the documents it's where she 196 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:33,400 released ashes and boxes full of 197 00:10:37,530 --> 00:10:34,990 fragments of this illegible didn't know 198 00:10:39,510 --> 00:10:37,540 that I'm here that they can't just if 199 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:39,520 they had like them preserved it 200 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:43,420 something but yeah I mean there's good 201 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:45,130 Simon Schama know he made a film called 202 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:46,630 cosmic whistle blows where he actually 203 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:48,010 this is a couple years back we actually 204 00:10:53,220 --> 00:10:49,360 did manage to get hold of a couple more 205 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:53,230 witnesses they're very old who are you 206 00:10:58,980 --> 00:10:56,410 who are you quoting called Simon Charmin 207 00:11:01,590 --> 00:10:58,990 who is a filmmaker here in Britain a 208 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:01,600 huge get hold of a couple of witnesses I 209 00:11:06,269 --> 00:11:03,190 mean this of course it was we are 210 00:11:07,230 --> 00:11:06,279 talking now 72 years these guys are 211 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:07,240 pretty old 212 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:09,880 I mean and gaudi's to these guys and 213 00:11:13,650 --> 00:11:12,010 gals are pretty old but they told a very 214 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:13,660 interesting story and he was enough for 215 00:11:19,290 --> 00:11:15,760 a new documentary so I quite enjoyed 216 00:11:22,350 --> 00:11:19,300 that film but you're right a long time 217 00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:22,360 ago now so once I mean Dean T's research 218 00:11:31,199 --> 00:11:23,980 didn't even begin properly until 30 219 00:11:34,530 --> 00:11:31,209 years after the event so I'm more into 220 00:11:38,190 --> 00:11:34,540 the Kingdom Arizona a UFO crash myself 221 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:38,200 we've had on the fellow there Tim right 222 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:41,770 that's done the on the scene 223 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:43,800 investigation of Kingman and 224 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:47,250 you know yeah that that to me seems to 225 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:50,790 have a lot more weight to it as do some 226 00:11:57,620 --> 00:11:54,570 of the other UFO crash sites no proof 227 00:12:00,500 --> 00:11:57,630 that there are extraterrestrial but you 228 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:00,510 know it's it's an entry I've written on 229 00:12:08,930 --> 00:12:04,260 the subject of course we have our UFO a 230 00:12:10,490 --> 00:12:08,940 crash book and and also I I don't know 231 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:10,500 you know I mean it's up in the air but I 232 00:12:17,180 --> 00:12:13,320 to me you'd have to offer be an awful 233 00:12:19,610 --> 00:12:17,190 lot of proof that the craft at Roswell 234 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:19,620 was actually a excerpt or you know 235 00:12:23,660 --> 00:12:21,930 terrestrial and we could go into the not 236 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:23,670 you know we've talked about the the 237 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:27,450 German and Nazi connection you know even 238 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:30,570 at the so-called the landing in the 239 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:32,930 desert where George Adamski had his 240 00:12:36,829 --> 00:12:35,730 supposedly first contact with north on 241 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:36,839 you know the spaceman from another 242 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:39,450 planet when they made the plaster of 243 00:12:45,380 --> 00:12:43,470 Paris a cast of the aliens boot print 244 00:12:48,139 --> 00:12:45,390 that was in the soil you know they put 245 00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:48,149 the plaster first cast out and lo and 246 00:12:53,569 --> 00:12:49,860 behold what was in the middle of a boot 247 00:12:56,420 --> 00:12:53,579 put a swastika I mean what would a 248 00:12:59,240 --> 00:12:56,430 Venusian be doing with a swastika in his 249 00:13:00,620 --> 00:12:59,250 boot you know certainly not very good 250 00:13:05,780 --> 00:13:00,630 intelligence opportunities that's the 251 00:13:09,490 --> 00:13:05,790 cases give away but not only that but in 252 00:13:12,620 --> 00:13:09,500 some of the early contact cases the 253 00:13:15,290 --> 00:13:12,630 occupants of the creb talked in german 254 00:13:18,139 --> 00:13:15,300 well you know this a british guy called 255 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:18,149 Michael Shrimpton and he's a researcher 256 00:13:21,769 --> 00:13:20,010 over here just conspiracies like that 257 00:13:23,420 --> 00:13:21,779 and he would be very interested in that 258 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:23,430 because as far as ease concerns you know 259 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:29,070 you name it the Germans did it so I 260 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:32,690 think we've got five or six books on the 261 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:36,390 that's a covered one Tim one person one 262 00:13:41,689 --> 00:13:38,760 and Nazi UFO time travelers right that's 263 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:41,699 right yeah I think that's probably the 264 00:13:47,630 --> 00:13:46,110 latest one I mean that was yeah yeah and 265 00:13:51,019 --> 00:13:47,640 what's the wonder yeah exploits of 266 00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:51,029 Admiral Byrd well yeah there's the 267 00:13:56,189 --> 00:13:54,070 exploits of Admiral Byrd 268 00:13:59,280 --> 00:13:56,199 that's it that's a good that's a good 269 00:14:01,139 --> 00:13:59,290 one with a lot of the knots yeah Tim 270 00:14:04,199 --> 00:14:01,149 Cridland over there does some more of 271 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:04,209 the torture King he did a really good 272 00:14:08,540 --> 00:14:05,910 job of making a connection between 273 00:14:13,230 --> 00:14:08,550 Admiral Byrd's family and the 274 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:13,240 assassination of JFK very little very 275 00:14:19,259 --> 00:14:15,519 little note very little known fact that 276 00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:19,269 the publicist Bird said nephew was it 277 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:22,660 his nephew Tim actually owned the the 278 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:24,610 Book Depository building that the the 279 00:14:31,590 --> 00:14:27,310 rifle shot supposedly came from yeah 280 00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:31,600 yeah like you know some some some 281 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:33,630 relative I don't know it was like a 282 00:14:39,689 --> 00:14:37,600 nephew from you know maybe not a blood 283 00:14:43,230 --> 00:14:39,699 relative but but but yeah I mean there 284 00:14:46,170 --> 00:14:43,240 was that connection there little known 285 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:46,180 fact I mean we dig deep right yeah I 286 00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:49,690 mean we did we dig really deep hey so 287 00:14:57,210 --> 00:14:54,910 the big conspiracy which includes a your 288 00:15:00,840 --> 00:14:57,220 royalty over there Ben is this a Jeffrey 289 00:15:04,980 --> 00:15:00,850 Epstein yeah this yeah did he commit 290 00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:04,990 suicide or was lynched I've not met one 291 00:15:08,970 --> 00:15:07,240 single person well I know there's a 292 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:08,980 couple but I've not met them who really 293 00:15:13,769 --> 00:15:11,550 believed that was suicide it's 294 00:15:16,850 --> 00:15:13,779 incredibly unlikely it is likely to be 295 00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:16,860 suicide at Diana had an accidental crash 296 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:19,720 it's so obvious I mean this is some I 297 00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:21,639 think it's a sign of the times actually 298 00:15:26,910 --> 00:15:24,399 guys because some something has changed 299 00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:26,920 something significantly changed in this 300 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:29,199 world and when it comes to things like 301 00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:31,209 this because it's like they can't keep 302 00:15:35,939 --> 00:15:33,430 it secret as easily as they used to and 303 00:15:37,319 --> 00:15:35,949 that's very and it's not easy it just 304 00:15:38,699 --> 00:15:37,329 come from month of multiple different 305 00:15:40,530 --> 00:15:38,709 areas there's all kinds of different 306 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:40,540 subjects involved in this but generally 307 00:15:47,490 --> 00:15:44,170 speaking across the board I feel that 308 00:15:50,579 --> 00:15:47,500 there's more transparency and the the 309 00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:50,589 powers that shouldn't be are worried 310 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:52,839 about this and I feel a lot of hope as a 311 00:15:59,639 --> 00:15:55,750 result well you know we hear all these 312 00:16:01,019 --> 00:15:59,649 rumors in fact there Tracy Twyman I 313 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:01,029 don't know if you knew her in that but 314 00:16:07,710 --> 00:16:03,569 she supposedly committed suicide 315 00:16:11,009 --> 00:16:07,720 recently I did a book that we publish 316 00:16:14,429 --> 00:16:11,019 sex slaves of the CIA and in that book 317 00:16:18,749 --> 00:16:14,439 she as she interviewed different 318 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:18,759 individuals a women who claimed that 319 00:16:24,090 --> 00:16:20,410 they were actually sex slaves of 320 00:16:26,699 --> 00:16:24,100 different politicians including the Vice 321 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:26,709 President Cheney over here now I 322 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:29,860 personally find this very hard to to 323 00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:33,160 believe to be honest with you but I I do 324 00:16:42,119 --> 00:16:37,199 know that they have especially in the UK 325 00:16:44,309 --> 00:16:42,129 busted pedophilia rings I mean do you 326 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:44,319 think this do you think this goes up as 327 00:16:49,860 --> 00:16:47,649 high as the the crown I think so I mean 328 00:16:51,929 --> 00:16:49,870 from what we've seen for example that 329 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:51,939 there's no way that these rings could 330 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:54,430 have existed without massive massive 331 00:16:59,100 --> 00:16:57,490 institutional collusion for example we 332 00:17:00,480 --> 00:16:59,110 have Jimmy Savile I think we mentioned 333 00:17:01,829 --> 00:17:00,490 him the last time I was on the show 334 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:01,839 actually if I remember rightly 335 00:17:05,970 --> 00:17:04,480 he's a major so he was a major celebrity 336 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:05,980 here in Britain we never managed to 337 00:17:13,309 --> 00:17:08,049 export him so you Americans were spared 338 00:17:17,299 --> 00:17:13,319 him luckily but we've got our own cursus 339 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:17,309 Piers Morgan and you're welcome to him 340 00:17:23,939 --> 00:17:20,799 Jimmy Jimmy Savile as a major celebrity 341 00:17:26,909 --> 00:17:23,949 work well he worked primarily in music 342 00:17:29,970 --> 00:17:26,919 programs of children's TV which is a bad 343 00:17:32,580 --> 00:17:29,980 combination and he worked the BBC for 46 344 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:32,590 years after he died it was revealed that 345 00:17:38,399 --> 00:17:36,010 he had been a serial abuser of children 346 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:38,409 and he did lots of charity work as well 347 00:17:41,610 --> 00:17:39,970 and he was a porter at a hospital once 348 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:41,620 and he was abusing children ouches are 349 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:43,840 awful things an awful thing from my 350 00:17:48,539 --> 00:17:45,340 perspective is he makes him a trace 351 00:17:50,250 --> 00:17:48,549 terrible traitor yeah but soon it's 352 00:17:53,580 --> 00:17:50,260 funny when it all came out it was 353 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:53,590 revealed that he essentially had been 354 00:17:57,899 --> 00:17:55,750 doing this with impunity in the BBC and 355 00:18:00,180 --> 00:17:57,909 the life and the BBC was it was a 356 00:18:03,930 --> 00:18:00,190 horrible blunder it was like oh my god 357 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:03,940 we had no idea so for 46 years he'd been 358 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:06,760 doing this and they had no idea I find 359 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:08,590 out almost as unbelievable as Jeffrey 360 00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:11,130 Epstein committing suicide I really do 361 00:18:15,899 --> 00:18:13,809 and there's a guy called Cyril Smith 362 00:18:17,940 --> 00:18:15,909 Smith was a very large man a she was 363 00:18:20,669 --> 00:18:17,950 famous for being the the heaviest MP in 364 00:18:21,710 --> 00:18:20,679 Parliament it turns out that he was 365 00:18:25,289 --> 00:18:21,720 involved 366 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:25,299 very very significantly in child abuse 367 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:28,450 he himself was a abuser of young boys he 368 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:31,120 was involved in organized criminal 369 00:18:34,769 --> 00:18:33,370 activities that provided these young 370 00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:34,779 boys and shipped these young boys around 371 00:18:39,509 --> 00:18:37,929 so when a guy could get a woman a man a 372 00:18:42,570 --> 00:18:39,519 woman comes out and says you know when I 373 00:18:43,950 --> 00:18:42,580 was a kid I was one a part of this chain 374 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:43,960 of pedophilia of course they might be 375 00:18:49,619 --> 00:18:45,700 making it up it's always possibility 376 00:18:51,210 --> 00:18:49,629 it's a yes yes there are some you have 377 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:51,220 these you know people that are 378 00:18:56,249 --> 00:18:54,610 hypnotized by and and and lead and and 379 00:18:58,350 --> 00:18:56,259 you don't know as if false memories I 380 00:19:00,149 --> 00:18:58,360 think there was this case in in 381 00:19:02,220 --> 00:19:00,159 California many years ago with the whole 382 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:02,230 family that were accused of having 383 00:19:07,529 --> 00:19:05,529 tunnels under the chair of the daycare 384 00:19:09,509 --> 00:19:07,539 center and all it was it was just 385 00:19:12,830 --> 00:19:09,519 nonsense you know and and we had a 386 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:12,840 leading of the TV a journalist who led 387 00:19:17,399 --> 00:19:15,369 the charge against these people and it 388 00:19:19,619 --> 00:19:17,409 was actually no evidence whatsoever I 389 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:19,629 mean including a grandmother who I think 390 00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:21,490 she was what's about 70 years old or 391 00:19:26,190 --> 00:19:22,240 something 392 00:19:29,580 --> 00:19:26,200 it was it was the McMartin family Mark 393 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:29,590 Martin preschool yeah oh yeah well I 394 00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:33,610 mean that that went to actually went to 395 00:19:39,570 --> 00:19:36,820 trial and oh yeah yeah I mean it 396 00:19:41,879 --> 00:19:39,580 disrupted these people's lives for four 397 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:41,889 years and there have been absolutely no 398 00:19:48,299 --> 00:19:45,730 evidence ever uncovered and you know 399 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:48,309 that that you know it showed that there 400 00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:50,590 was any veracity to these claims and you 401 00:19:55,889 --> 00:19:52,360 know it turned out that the main person 402 00:19:59,609 --> 00:19:55,899 who had first leveled the charges was a 403 00:20:02,399 --> 00:19:59,619 mother who unfortunately suffered from 404 00:20:05,369 --> 00:20:02,409 severe mental illness and had been in 405 00:20:09,539 --> 00:20:05,379 and out of various hospitals for years 406 00:20:10,859 --> 00:20:09,549 and she was the one who first made the 407 00:20:12,659 --> 00:20:10,869 reports to the police 408 00:20:15,869 --> 00:20:12,669 you know claiming like you said that 409 00:20:19,889 --> 00:20:15,879 there was tunnels under the under this 410 00:20:22,259 --> 00:20:19,899 preschool that the children claimed that 411 00:20:24,629 --> 00:20:22,269 they were taken away and taken out of 412 00:20:28,109 --> 00:20:24,639 the country and then brought back again 413 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,119 in just a matter of a few hours it was 414 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:30,480 just you know ridiculous that people 415 00:20:36,510 --> 00:20:35,110 believed it it's so you have to stop 416 00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:36,520 proceed with caution when you're dealing 417 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:38,559 with these sort of things because you 418 00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:39,910 don't want to make a mistake you can't 419 00:20:43,289 --> 00:20:41,590 afford to make a mistake with with 420 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:43,299 accusations this terrible I'm it's the 421 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:46,510 worst crime imaginable and that anyone 422 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:48,160 will recuse dove and if you get it wrong 423 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:50,770 you ruin people's lives nor so you you 424 00:20:54,510 --> 00:20:52,390 muddied the waters when they're for the 425 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:54,520 real victims and the real perpetrators 426 00:20:58,530 --> 00:20:56,170 son so yeah you've got to be very 427 00:21:01,400 --> 00:20:58,540 careful I'm really sorry that these 428 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:01,410 people were falsely accused it's rific 429 00:21:06,930 --> 00:21:05,290 you know go ahead I said I keep very 430 00:21:10,980 --> 00:21:06,940 quiet this is why I keep quiet about 431 00:21:12,930 --> 00:21:10,990 certain famous cases involving these 432 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:12,940 kinds of suspicions there has been a 433 00:21:16,890 --> 00:21:14,740 couple involving there's been a couple 434 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:16,900 of levels that say John Podesta and the 435 00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:18,580 Clintons which I don't yell about 436 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:20,200 because I won't even mention the name of 437 00:21:24,270 --> 00:21:21,850 it on the air because you can get 438 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:24,280 trouble you know again but I don't I'm 439 00:21:27,030 --> 00:21:25,600 not actually commented on that because 440 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,040 quite frankly I don't know if it's true 441 00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:28,960 or false and until one pretty certain is 442 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:30,760 true or likely to be true I'm not going 443 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:34,270 to say anything you know we were 444 00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:36,370 discussing you know something before the 445 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:40,740 start of the show I have a very bad 446 00:21:46,409 --> 00:21:43,809 chronic back pain where it's gotten to 447 00:21:49,169 --> 00:21:46,419 the point where I can't even walk a 448 00:21:51,659 --> 00:21:49,179 block really I just suffer you know I 449 00:21:54,659 --> 00:21:51,669 mean it's it's terrible it's like I have 450 00:21:57,030 --> 00:21:54,669 a hundred pound weight around my waist 451 00:21:59,730 --> 00:21:57,040 now I've tried everything in fact they 452 00:22:02,159 --> 00:21:59,740 did a surgical procedure at the hospital 453 00:22:04,919 --> 00:22:02,169 and it made it worse I sleep in a 454 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:04,929 recliner can you imagine that it's not a 455 00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:06,730 very good recliner if anybody has a good 456 00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:08,169 one out there they'd like to sudden over 457 00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:11,679 I'm I'm open to it but I thought this 458 00:22:16,620 --> 00:22:14,620 week I ran into someone across the 459 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:16,630 street there happens to be a wellness 460 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:19,630 clinic and medical marijuana is now 461 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:23,320 legal in the state of New York I don't 462 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:25,870 know too much about it as far as pain 463 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,960 control goes the young lady who was just 464 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:30,640 entering the business establishment 465 00:22:35,900 --> 00:22:32,830 there said that I should get in touch 466 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:35,910 with them now I know you do need a 467 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:38,530 marijuana card which you have to pay the 468 00:22:44,340 --> 00:22:41,710 state for I contacted one of my doctors 469 00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:44,350 my physician at the hospital my primary 470 00:22:50,370 --> 00:22:47,470 physician and ask them about medical 471 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:50,380 marijuana and he didn't say don't use it 472 00:22:54,419 --> 00:22:52,809 for recreational purposes he just said 473 00:22:58,890 --> 00:22:54,429 there was no evidence as far as he was 474 00:23:01,980 --> 00:22:58,900 concerned that it actually caused the 475 00:23:06,150 --> 00:23:01,990 elimination of chronic pain what's a 476 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:06,160 u-bend the porter Hospital and I'm not a 477 00:23:10,290 --> 00:23:07,630 doctor in a pain in the immortal and 478 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:10,300 simple Bob Marley legalized here my 479 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:12,010 mother had multiple sclerosis used it 480 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:13,929 all the time it has amazing effects for 481 00:23:17,580 --> 00:23:16,090 her so yeah definitely if you can help 482 00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:17,590 you I'd be really glad because back pain 483 00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:20,860 is a horrible thing oh you know I can't 484 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:23,260 it good thing I don't have to one good 485 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,050 thing about books on demand you don't 486 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:28,240 have to carry a carry the cartons 487 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:30,040 anymore one of the reasons I got the 488 00:23:35,340 --> 00:23:32,650 chronic back pain was the boxes the 489 00:23:38,790 --> 00:23:35,350 books used to weigh about 60 pounds you 490 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:38,800 know oh that's when they were vided by 491 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:41,440 the tons I mean we would just move it 492 00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:43,210 were you know I mean well I had two 493 00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:45,190 people working for me just carton books 494 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:48,190 around on hand trucks and stuff like 495 00:23:52,169 --> 00:23:50,410 that you know yeah boy books are print 496 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:52,179 on tomorrow and it's really really good 497 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:53,770 that way and I'm yeah you got to be 498 00:23:57,049 --> 00:23:55,210 careful carrying things it's something I 499 00:23:59,010 --> 00:23:57,059 learned when I was a porter you know 500 00:24:00,840 --> 00:23:59,020 alright gentlemen I need to interrupt 501 00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:00,850 you here because we have to go to our 502 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:02,620 bottom of the hour break when we come 503 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:05,260 back we will continue our conversation 504 00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:07,600 with Ben the border on exploring the 505 00:24:24,790 --> 00:24:22,210 now back to exploring the bazaar with 506 00:24:27,790 --> 00:24:24,800 two of the most electrifying researchers 507 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:27,800 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy 508 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Rebecca Lee panting sports and welcome 509 00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:34,850 back to exploring the bazaar I'm Tim 510 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:38,000 Schwarz tonight our guest is Ben the 511 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:41,240 porter and always happy that Ben is 512 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:45,760 willing to get up in the early early 513 00:24:53,290 --> 00:24:48,950 hours of the morning for him to to be at 514 00:24:57,130 --> 00:24:53,300 our show Ben you had mentioned in the 515 00:25:02,110 --> 00:24:57,140 previous segment and I can't remember 516 00:25:04,990 --> 00:25:02,120 the gentleman's name is Jimmy what was 517 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:05,000 his last name Jimmy Savile Jimmy Savile 518 00:25:12,580 --> 00:25:09,530 right all right the BBC claim that they 519 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:12,590 have no idea of all the impropriety is 520 00:25:18,460 --> 00:25:15,530 that he had been doing when especially 521 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:18,470 when he was the host of the the the 522 00:25:24,450 --> 00:25:21,170 music show that he had for years but 523 00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:24,460 there's a couple years ago there was a 524 00:25:32,590 --> 00:25:29,540 lady who came out and claimed or wasn't 525 00:25:34,570 --> 00:25:32,600 claimed it was proven that while she was 526 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,580 on the show was you I guess like one of 527 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:36,320 the dancers or something like that and 528 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:37,850 at the end of the show 529 00:25:44,050 --> 00:25:41,050 she was sitting next to Jimmy is he was 530 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:44,060 saying the goodbyes to the television 531 00:25:50,290 --> 00:25:47,390 audience and apparently while he was 532 00:25:54,130 --> 00:25:50,300 doing that he reached down and grabbed 533 00:25:56,350 --> 00:25:54,140 her at a a place that our current 534 00:26:02,710 --> 00:25:56,360 president is famous for claiming that 535 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,720 that he liked to grab women now when she 536 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:05,360 made this statement somebody actually 537 00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:09,890 found a kinescope I guess is what it was 538 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:15,260 of of this scene and it was Anna Mae Stu 539 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:18,110 will be on YouTube and it's very clear 540 00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:20,330 that as Jimmy is talking to the camera 541 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:22,310 all of a sudden this this young girl I 542 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:24,110 mean she was just a young teenager all 543 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,370 of a sudden she like 544 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:27,440 screams basically and jumps around 545 00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:30,170 trying to get out of his way but he 546 00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:33,200 manages to hold on to her now with that 547 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:34,340 kind of evidence 548 00:26:39,310 --> 00:26:37,370 the BBC BBC still claims that they had 549 00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:39,320 no idea that this guy was doing this 550 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:41,630 kind of stuff it's really quest honestly 551 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:43,130 I mean it's a story you just told this 552 00:26:48,010 --> 00:26:45,740 horrible story but by a young girl to 553 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:48,020 have been attacked attacked by a man 554 00:26:54,340 --> 00:26:51,710 like that young ages yeah live on air 555 00:26:56,350 --> 00:26:54,350 it's the the brazenness of his all is 556 00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:56,360 incredible I mean he wrote he wrote a 557 00:27:00,370 --> 00:26:59,210 book once it's I think it was in the 558 00:27:02,430 --> 00:27:00,380 early seventies he wrote like an 559 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,440 autobiography as I said he's been 560 00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:04,400 involved in the show business a long 561 00:27:10,030 --> 00:27:06,830 time and he drops hints about his 562 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:10,040 girlfriends and everyone is like thinks 563 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:11,330 he's just it's just generally having a 564 00:27:15,490 --> 00:27:14,390 laugh but with hindsight you can see 565 00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,500 there was something very sinister about 566 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:17,600 him what he was saying as a young 567 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:20,809 actress called Julie Fernandez who was 568 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:23,360 she's sort of in her forties now she sir 569 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:25,010 confined to a wheelchair see it has 570 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:28,370 something wrong with her legs and she 571 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:31,130 said he did the same thing to her when 572 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:33,890 she was about 13 or 14 when she was on 573 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,080 his show at the top of the pops program 574 00:27:39,910 --> 00:27:38,000 if you've never seen it it has like 575 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,920 musicians performing on stage and all 576 00:27:45,310 --> 00:27:42,080 around those girls and boys dancing you 577 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:45,320 know it's like a big disco and he would 578 00:27:51,730 --> 00:27:49,330 show everyone here we had one here well 579 00:27:55,030 --> 00:27:51,740 shangri-la or something oh hello 580 00:27:57,910 --> 00:27:55,040 hullabaloo hullabaloo okay yes yeah it's 581 00:27:59,650 --> 00:27:57,920 it see it's a it seems like there's a 582 00:28:00,700 --> 00:27:59,660 lot of people who knew it it's it's 583 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:00,710 funny funny see you hear this phrase 584 00:28:04,990 --> 00:28:02,690 open secret you heard that phrase before 585 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:05,000 sure yeah it seems that there was some 586 00:28:09,490 --> 00:28:07,490 kind of tacit collaboration involved of 587 00:28:11,770 --> 00:28:09,500 people including some celebrities such 588 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:11,780 as Esther Rantzen now Esther Rantzen 589 00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:14,720 now she's a big celebrity at BBC and 590 00:28:19,210 --> 00:28:16,760 she's also she's the founder of the 591 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:19,220 Childline Child Protection Service and 592 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:20,480 she has a reputation for being a 593 00:28:25,060 --> 00:28:23,450 protector of children and her it's 594 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:25,070 incredible I listened to her talking 595 00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:26,390 about this it was like I was watching 596 00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:30,260 groupthink in action she was saying yes 597 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:32,360 we'd all heard about it we all sort of 598 00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:34,220 knew something was going on but we 599 00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:35,750 couldn't really say anything we didn't 600 00:28:37,870 --> 00:28:37,160 do anything and I thought to myself this 601 00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:37,880 I couldn't 602 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:39,980 leave this is Esther Rantzen talking and 603 00:28:44,770 --> 00:28:41,630 there was Janice reporter she's another 604 00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:44,780 one Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols and 605 00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:46,880 he he's an outtake from the Old Grey 606 00:28:51,670 --> 00:28:49,070 Whistle test and in the 70s where he's 607 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:51,680 talking about it and well he was 608 00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:53,210 confronted actually when sad when all 609 00:28:57,820 --> 00:28:54,800 came out of Savile and the guy was 610 00:29:01,000 --> 00:28:57,830 crying with with shame and guilt because 611 00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:01,010 of what of this holy business but it's 612 00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:03,950 like it's it's almost like people flip 613 00:29:07,090 --> 00:29:05,270 into a different state of mind when 614 00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:07,100 they're part of a large institution and 615 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:08,630 there and there's some kind of there's a 616 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:10,510 hierarchy of 617 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:13,010 instructions may be heard of the Milgram 618 00:29:16,750 --> 00:29:15,710 experiments mmm yes yeah okay I know 619 00:29:19,330 --> 00:29:16,760 what you're talking about yeah which 620 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:19,340 tested people's obedience to Authority 621 00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:20,930 they had a guy dressed in a dress up as 622 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:21,620 a doctor 623 00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,440 ordering people to press buttons and 624 00:29:28,690 --> 00:29:26,720 give someone electric shocks and there 625 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:28,700 was someone behind the screen and he was 626 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:30,110 he was not actually having electric 627 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:31,250 shocks he was just an actor who's 628 00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:32,510 screaming at the top of his lungs 629 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:35,030 begging for mercy as this guy's pressing 630 00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:36,530 buttons and the doctor said press the 631 00:29:39,580 --> 00:29:37,040 next button 632 00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:39,590 give him a higher shock this time and 633 00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:41,990 surprise frightening Lee more than 90 634 00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:43,670 percent of people's willing to get 635 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:45,830 delivered even fatal shocks to the 636 00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:47,450 person they thought they was it was a 637 00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:50,840 person if the doctor ordered them soon 638 00:29:57,070 --> 00:29:53,840 some cell it sounds like a was Rob 639 00:29:58,780 --> 00:29:57,080 Zombie movie it's how you explain things 640 00:30:00,400 --> 00:29:58,790 like the gulags and things like that 641 00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:00,410 you know they they would just obey 642 00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:01,550 orders and they would do the most 643 00:30:04,210 --> 00:30:03,140 horrific normal people do the most 644 00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:04,220 horrific things if someone in authority 645 00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:05,990 was telling them to and that's what you 646 00:30:10,990 --> 00:30:08,960 see at the BBC you see that some you see 647 00:30:12,730 --> 00:30:11,000 their attitude and you know governments 648 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,740 have employ psychologists who know about 649 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:14,720 this sort of thing and they so if they 650 00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:17,510 are running these these various rackets 651 00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:19,790 these rather highly organized a chains 652 00:30:23,890 --> 00:30:22,880 of the most horrific crimes there's 653 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:23,900 large types of people who will know 654 00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:25,010 about it and not do anything about it 655 00:30:29,970 --> 00:30:26,720 they're protected in a sense the secret 656 00:30:32,020 --> 00:30:29,980 keeps itself it's it's as frightening 657 00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:32,030 element of human nature which the 658 00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:34,640 government exploited it really really 659 00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:35,870 gives me this [\h__\h] you see the same 660 00:30:40,060 --> 00:30:38,150 thing with Epstein over here I mean but 661 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:40,070 the fact that this these secrets are now 662 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:41,330 emerging 663 00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:42,710 I think he's encouraging I think it's 664 00:30:45,850 --> 00:30:44,390 very hopeful because this these are 665 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:45,860 refer to secrets that been around for a 666 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:48,530 long time Jimmy Savile was started the 667 00:30:54,910 --> 00:30:51,770 BBC a long time ago sort of early 60s 668 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:54,920 so the fact that nothing was said then 669 00:30:59,260 --> 00:30:56,720 but now we know about it 670 00:31:01,360 --> 00:30:59,270 it's a pity never went to jail and she's 671 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:01,370 rescued by the grave but since it's it's 672 00:31:06,790 --> 00:31:03,650 hopeful lies it really is very it gives 673 00:31:08,770 --> 00:31:06,800 me hope when I was just reading today 674 00:31:13,030 --> 00:31:08,780 and I don't know if you've heard this 675 00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:13,040 yet and yeah you know I mean you know 676 00:31:17,950 --> 00:31:16,280 what's what somebody dies then all of 677 00:31:20,860 --> 00:31:17,960 these stories emerge but this wouldn't 678 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:20,870 you know concerns a Jeffrey Epstein as I 679 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:24,170 and somebody was saying that that that 680 00:31:31,299 --> 00:31:28,210 that he and I guess the one lady who was 681 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:31,309 you know basically though the woman who 682 00:31:37,810 --> 00:31:33,770 went around finding young girls for him 683 00:31:43,510 --> 00:31:37,820 that they were agents of Mossad Mossad 684 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:43,520 Harry pronounces and that it was their 685 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:46,850 job basically to use these young girls 686 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:51,130 on politicians you know celebrities to 687 00:31:58,330 --> 00:31:54,890 to get films and and other damning 688 00:32:00,790 --> 00:31:58,340 evidence to use you know basically is 689 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:00,800 blackmail and extortion yes 690 00:32:04,810 --> 00:32:02,570 have you had you have you heard this one 691 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:04,820 yet I just read it earlier today I 692 00:32:09,250 --> 00:32:07,370 hadn't heard of this is specifically 693 00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:09,260 relate to Epstein but of course it's a 694 00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:11,150 well-known fact that intelligence 695 00:32:16,030 --> 00:32:13,400 agencies when they're recruiting agents 696 00:32:17,890 --> 00:32:16,040 in foreign countries they will use these 697 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:17,900 methods the honey trap and then the 698 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:19,730 blackmail and things like that it 699 00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:21,050 happened all through the Cold War it 700 00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:23,480 happened before then I mean it's a tried 701 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:25,070 and tested technique they'll get to 702 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:26,510 damning evidence against something and 703 00:32:30,430 --> 00:32:28,640 then they will say right you you do now 704 00:32:33,010 --> 00:32:30,440 will do such some favors or this is 705 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:33,020 going to go public and indeed then this 706 00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:37,610 is like but I do if someone is it is 707 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:39,590 vulnerable in that way because very very 708 00:32:43,570 --> 00:32:41,330 few people spend their whole lives as 709 00:32:45,370 --> 00:32:43,580 flawless angels you know I'm not saying 710 00:32:48,850 --> 00:32:45,380 everyone does things as horrific as 711 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:48,860 Epstein and Savile but guys you some 712 00:32:52,690 --> 00:32:51,290 guys might you know have a liaison with 713 00:32:55,299 --> 00:32:52,700 someone else and when they're married 714 00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:55,309 and things like that and that that in 715 00:32:59,470 --> 00:32:56,870 itself even if it's not criminal could 716 00:33:01,450 --> 00:32:59,480 be enough to to have some sort of 717 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:01,460 leverage on somebody you know well well 718 00:33:05,629 --> 00:33:03,650 you know one of the movies that I made 719 00:33:07,699 --> 00:33:05,639 years ago driller 720 00:33:10,879 --> 00:33:07,709 Rosalie Adele takeoff of Michael Jackson 721 00:33:13,369 --> 00:33:10,889 Stiller Thriller it would not they 722 00:33:17,979 --> 00:33:13,379 wouldn't allow it to be shown in Canada 723 00:33:25,539 --> 00:33:22,039 it you know it had an actor dressed up 724 00:33:27,979 --> 00:33:25,549 as a as a werewolf in it and so that was 725 00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:27,989 banned banned from you know all 726 00:33:42,529 --> 00:33:40,799 provinces and in Canada so they're not 727 00:33:45,889 --> 00:33:42,539 human and especially this one wasn't in 728 00:33:47,749 --> 00:33:45,899 the movie and no oh there might be they 729 00:33:50,629 --> 00:33:47,759 may be they may be real I mean we got 730 00:33:55,940 --> 00:33:50,639 the shapeshifters running around in fact 731 00:33:58,519 --> 00:33:55,950 in this book UFOs deja vu a good portion 732 00:34:02,629 --> 00:33:58,529 of the book is about shapeshifters and 733 00:34:06,469 --> 00:34:02,639 and skinwalkers and so have you ever 734 00:34:08,509 --> 00:34:06,479 done any research on that that yeah well 735 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:08,519 when I Prince Andrew said I am he was 736 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:10,169 one of his excuses when he when he met 737 00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:11,970 Virginia Robert Jeffery she said he was 738 00:34:16,669 --> 00:34:14,279 sweating once we were dancing he says oh 739 00:34:20,499 --> 00:34:16,679 I never sweat he said and I thought to 740 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:20,509 myself well mammals don't but Sir 741 00:34:25,490 --> 00:34:23,849 reptile is he dropping some in here 742 00:34:30,669 --> 00:34:25,500 about what shape he was in at the time 743 00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:30,679 wait no I accused the queen of being a 744 00:34:35,779 --> 00:34:32,609 reptilian and a shapeshifter 745 00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:35,789 and you know it's really weird she likes 746 00:34:40,099 --> 00:34:37,409 to wear green and yellow 747 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:40,109 it seems to me every time I've seen a 748 00:34:44,539 --> 00:34:41,970 serpent they got a lot of green in 749 00:34:47,569 --> 00:34:44,549 yellow honor oh yeah this idea was 750 00:34:49,339 --> 00:34:47,579 popularized by David Icke but yes not 751 00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:49,349 the only one I mean peace people saved 752 00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:51,000 him but he's not the only one and it's 753 00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:52,950 it's really badly so it's something like 754 00:34:57,170 --> 00:34:55,379 how as bizarre as it might sound and you 755 00:35:01,339 --> 00:34:57,180 do explore the bizarre on this show that 756 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:01,349 is where your name this is about as 757 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:04,170 strange as we've gotten I think this is 758 00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:06,890 this is most extreme an element you get 759 00:35:11,749 --> 00:35:09,750 people people report this experience 760 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,759 they reports seeing people turn into 761 00:35:15,769 --> 00:35:13,920 these lists these humanoid lizard lice 762 00:35:17,870 --> 00:35:15,779 creatures and I mean some of them it's 763 00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:17,880 not this usually people in some form of 764 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,360 authority but sometimes 765 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:22,000 just like well I met a woman once sir 766 00:35:31,290 --> 00:35:24,010 she wrote a book her her pads the pen 767 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:31,300 name Susan read you actually met her I I 768 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:33,850 wasn't sure she existed the began yeah I 769 00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:35,770 was when I met a nice talk to her I was 770 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:37,750 and she goes her story she was married 771 00:35:43,050 --> 00:35:40,510 to a reptilian shapeshifter and I was 772 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:43,060 astonished about how ordinary she was I 773 00:35:46,530 --> 00:35:44,770 mean when I mean I'd read her book and I 774 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:46,540 met and she she was just very a very 775 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:49,260 ordinary kind of housewife type person 776 00:35:54,690 --> 00:35:52,900 and sadly she died she drowned actually 777 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:54,700 unless she was swimming in the sea on 778 00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:55,810 holiday it was no I don't think it's 779 00:36:00,570 --> 00:35:57,520 suspicious she's growl their depth like 780 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:00,580 some people do but some her story is 781 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:02,490 remarkable and 782 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:05,500 talking to her made me know what makes 783 00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:12,400 sound richer but it's really was a it's 784 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:13,750 a remarkable book and the remarkable 785 00:36:18,930 --> 00:36:16,960 tale and her be who she was somebody who 786 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:18,940 keeps her up for her own name privacy 787 00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:22,900 she never sought fame or fortune and the 788 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:25,300 normal normality of her made it sound 789 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,610 even more persuasive I do please a lot 790 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:29,200 of people have this experience and it's 791 00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:31,210 I believe it should be taken seriously 792 00:36:39,870 --> 00:36:34,990 and it's it is a possibility you know 793 00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:39,880 yeah we ran we ran a piece that that she 794 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:43,060 wrote probably you know years before she 795 00:36:56,070 --> 00:36:46,240 she put the book together she she had 796 00:37:00,000 --> 00:36:56,080 sent it to me and we and we we included 797 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:00,010 it in commander X's book of incredible 798 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:06,190 conspiracies somewhere but I didn't do 799 00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:08,890 it on me exactly where I I know I tried 800 00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:11,080 to reach her or contact her and was 801 00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:13,870 never able to do so so uh all right now 802 00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:15,460 I only I happen to run into her at a 803 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:18,280 conference she was she was traveling 804 00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:20,170 with a friend of mine and she was the 805 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:22,030 probe conference in in Blackpool England 806 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:24,610 and so I'm to run into her and that's 807 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:27,040 how I met her but I never spoke to us I 808 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:28,390 know we're never kind of contacted her 809 00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,550 but I'd like to say she was not really a 810 00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:32,800 person who sought any 811 00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:35,080 a publicity she wasn't making this story 812 00:37:41,310 --> 00:37:37,830 up to get us to get herself well-known 813 00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:41,320 she she made it up because issue she 814 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:42,670 said it because I think but I believe 815 00:37:45,870 --> 00:37:44,290 it's true and I've met other people 816 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:45,880 you've had the similar experiences it's 817 00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:48,880 it's really something that's as crazy as 818 00:37:55,850 --> 00:37:51,070 it is I think there's reason to believe 819 00:37:59,790 --> 00:37:55,860 it one the and the strange thing about 820 00:38:02,730 --> 00:37:59,800 these sort of situations is that you can 821 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:02,740 go practically anywhere on the planet 822 00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:10,020 and find stories that are so similar yet 823 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:13,300 the people who are telling them have no 824 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:15,250 idea that other people are telling the 825 00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:18,640 same stories in you know another country 826 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:21,280 on the other side of the world yeah 827 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:22,690 that's what always fascinates me about 828 00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:25,330 it this ancient mythologies of among 829 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:27,790 people people who made it may I say who 830 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:29,290 came up with these stories when people 831 00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:31,210 didn't travel as much as they do now and 832 00:38:34,410 --> 00:38:33,070 these are people these are cultures that 833 00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:34,420 never had any contact with each other 834 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:36,700 yet they come up with the same idea this 835 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,860 idea of some kind of extraterrestrial 836 00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:40,960 intervention in the early in the early 837 00:38:45,930 --> 00:38:43,870 part of human history offered involving 838 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:45,940 sometimes sexual activity interbreeding 839 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:48,160 and things like that I mean the classic 840 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,710 one is Genesis chapter 12 the the 841 00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:52,480 daughters suing the daughters of men 842 00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:54,070 were that the Nephilim came unto the 843 00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,960 daughters of men saw they were fair took 844 00:38:59,880 --> 00:38:57,520 her than many wives who gave them many 845 00:39:01,560 --> 00:38:59,890 heirs who became the wise men of renown 846 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:01,570 I mean that's from the Bible but this 847 00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:03,850 there's legends from southern Africa 848 00:39:08,730 --> 00:39:08,080 from South America from Mexico all over 849 00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:08,740 the place 850 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:12,550 I remember I remembered that David Icke 851 00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:17,950 add the rather famous African fellow 852 00:39:22,770 --> 00:39:19,150 there Fred 853 00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:22,780 that's why yes and I must say I saw the 854 00:39:28,140 --> 00:39:24,940 videotapes the interview I was very 855 00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:28,150 impressed by him in fact he's written 856 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:29,950 you know books himself I'm sure he's 857 00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:32,050 deceased by now he's rather elderly even 858 00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:35,110 that but he's written a couple of books 859 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:37,000 and we used to sell my eye you know you 860 00:39:40,830 --> 00:39:38,620 see them wholesale and things like that 861 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:40,840 they weren't readily available here in 862 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:44,320 the States but there are of course we 863 00:39:49,150 --> 00:39:46,490 talk about the native of 864 00:39:52,930 --> 00:39:49,160 American legends of these shapeshifters 865 00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:52,940 and not so much turning into reptiles 866 00:39:59,460 --> 00:39:54,710 and returning from a reptile into a 867 00:40:02,710 --> 00:39:59,470 human but coyotes and wolves and 868 00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:02,720 different kinds of I guess they're 869 00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:07,480 Ravens and-and-and Thunderbirds and 870 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,920 where where was it was yeah it really is 871 00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:14,480 an extraordinary the video the interview 872 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:16,340 of Crater which one is really it's 873 00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:18,170 crevasse six hours long and I was glued 874 00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:20,750 to it the whole yeah I read two of his 875 00:40:27,790 --> 00:40:22,430 books he's still around believe Illinois 876 00:40:34,450 --> 00:40:27,800 and he's pretty we got to get him on the 877 00:40:36,430 --> 00:40:34,460 program Tim he does do bill go on to to 878 00:40:38,590 --> 00:40:36,440 throw he will go wants us to of shows 879 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:38,600 occasionally but you know the the books 880 00:40:42,370 --> 00:40:40,730 me down with my children which is goes 881 00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:42,380 into these old mister eaves pathology 882 00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:44,030 specially written down these folk tales 883 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:46,100 from the from the Zulu culture of South 884 00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:50,090 Africa and it's um involves some of the 885 00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:51,740 same features even though he wrote this 886 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,660 book in the 60s long before David I was 887 00:40:58,990 --> 00:40:55,760 David Icke yet still playing football in 888 00:41:00,400 --> 00:40:59,000 those days you know oh yes so he didn't 889 00:41:02,050 --> 00:41:00,410 get the idea from David Icke it was 890 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:02,060 actually he you approached David David 891 00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:04,250 and said look we got a talk because you 892 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:06,680 know about the [\h__\h] early cause of 893 00:41:11,890 --> 00:41:08,690 the Chitauri which is basically the same 894 00:41:13,690 --> 00:41:11,900 as the Anunnaki the and the other kinds 895 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:13,700 of creatures though there's there's 896 00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,310 various other names for them the Elohim 897 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:19,040 etc involving these creatures that are 898 00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:23,200 actually influence humans in the early 899 00:41:28,510 --> 00:41:25,790 do you realize that anybody tuning into 900 00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:28,520 this program who has no clue as to what 901 00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:30,260 we do or think that we're absolutely 902 00:41:39,609 --> 00:41:33,310 crazy bonkers and should be locked up oh 903 00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:39,619 sure they do I mean you know it's all 904 00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:42,350 dims towards us for oh yeah blame em 905 00:41:45,099 --> 00:41:43,790 yeah but I tell you what you have to 906 00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:45,109 take some of you have to take some of 907 00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,510 the credit and blame Timothy B because 908 00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:49,520 you know I get this all the time from my 909 00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:51,350 family I gave a calm you're screwed with 910 00:41:57,849 --> 00:41:54,830 the alias tell me the story about them 911 00:41:59,230 --> 00:41:57,859 yeah well my dance my desk or my desk or 912 00:42:00,130 --> 00:41:59,240 girlfriend I mean my that's quite a so 913 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:00,140 youthful chat 914 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:02,090 penis he said that he too but you know 915 00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:03,290 he wouldn't believe it he goes to the 916 00:42:10,330 --> 00:42:07,550 gym well sir so am i oh he's got himself 917 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:10,340 a younger girlfriend she's 62 she's 918 00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:12,890 younger than him and I she she was I 919 00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:14,750 thought she's quite open-minded you know 920 00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:16,400 she's like a because she started talking 921 00:42:19,150 --> 00:42:18,110 to UFOs I mean I thought oh great so I 922 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:19,160 brought her a copy of screwed by the 923 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:21,170 aliens and I thought condors I'll be 924 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:22,610 talking to you about it and it looked 925 00:42:26,650 --> 00:42:24,170 like a sort of book that was interesting 926 00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:26,660 and I bought it for Christmas last year 927 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:28,550 and she and I handed it to a chauffeur 928 00:42:48,250 --> 00:42:31,130 she took one look at issues Oh No thank 929 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:48,260 you thank you so I'm not gonna be damned 930 00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:50,810 be dead I hope I hope a lot of people 931 00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:53,180 didn't do that but well no they'd have 932 00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,160 to purchase the book first before they 933 00:42:59,020 --> 00:42:57,200 threw it and it's a heavy book you don't 934 00:43:02,110 --> 00:42:59,030 want to throw that book you know around 935 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:02,120 there it's like 400 pages in there or 936 00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:04,490 we're notoriously 937 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:07,660 you know a thick as a brick 938 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:13,490 yeah use yours a just Hotel phrase yeah 939 00:43:17,710 --> 00:43:15,770 no yeah don't drop one on your moggy oh 940 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:17,720 you know that's a catchphrase you know 941 00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:19,970 reading this book changed my life and 942 00:43:24,070 --> 00:43:22,280 she's like the Shrugged or something a 943 00:43:25,630 --> 00:43:24,080 really massive book and say yeah I did 944 00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:25,640 that chronic backache coming home from 945 00:43:33,610 --> 00:43:31,400 the library well it's too bad that she 946 00:43:37,060 --> 00:43:33,620 didn't even bother to crack the book 947 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:37,070 over it's a good book you know 948 00:43:43,180 --> 00:43:40,730 well maybe the what is it sex with sex 949 00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:43,190 the sex the terrestrials are coming 950 00:43:54,070 --> 00:43:52,280 that's yeah I tell you it's not your 951 00:43:55,780 --> 00:43:54,080 father's not a dull subject I remember 952 00:43:57,580 --> 00:43:55,790 one time going in a newsstand then I 953 00:43:59,500 --> 00:43:57,590 asked the fella do you carry UFO 954 00:44:01,060 --> 00:43:59,510 magazines and he said why would we carry 955 00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:01,070 them what could you possibly write about 956 00:44:07,330 --> 00:44:04,160 UFOs what can't you write about them you 957 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:07,340 know man you could start in a day you 958 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:10,610 know now in three years later come up 959 00:44:13,730 --> 00:44:13,250 with a new theory you know that is group 960 00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:13,740 thinking 961 00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:15,960 and Tim it really is it's it's akise 962 00:44:19,970 --> 00:44:18,240 groupthink just like you saw the BBC 963 00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:19,980 it's it's not it's obviously not some 964 00:44:23,780 --> 00:44:22,260 malevolent but it's it's another example 965 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:23,790 of this idea well you know it's just 966 00:44:27,260 --> 00:44:25,770 daft and it's just loony stuff we just 967 00:44:29,830 --> 00:44:27,270 don't do that sort of thing we don't 968 00:44:32,330 --> 00:44:29,840 stop that sort of stuff it's it's nuts 969 00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:32,340 and they're the people who probably 970 00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:33,750 don't know anything about it or they 971 00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:35,190 just go in there going along to get 972 00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:35,550 along 973 00:44:44,540 --> 00:44:40,430 that's I think anyway by our books by 974 00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:44,550 the sex of the aliens and and and you 975 00:44:49,580 --> 00:44:46,920 have incredible UFO encounters in UFO 976 00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:49,590 deja vu just go to amazon.com and type 977 00:44:57,350 --> 00:44:52,380 in Timothy Beckley or Tim Schwarz you'll 978 00:45:00,320 --> 00:44:57,360 get 300 books books minutes incredible 979 00:45:02,420 --> 00:45:00,330 that we've done almost 500 shows my god 980 00:45:04,820 --> 00:45:02,430 we're just inundated with this stuff but 981 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:04,830 Ben we're running at a time tell our 982 00:45:08,090 --> 00:45:06,330 listeners how in the hell can they get 983 00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:08,100 in touch with you well if you go any 984 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:09,750 energy for reading after you've read the 985 00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:12,330 Tim's books get a copy of Roswell rising 986 00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:13,800 a novel of disclosure and it's two 987 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:16,920 sequels and go to HPA and wo her panwa 988 00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:18,570 hospital porters against the new world 989 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:20,430 order and you'll find out all about me 990 00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:27,290 if they go to google and type in bender 991 00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:29,190 porter will they find you i don't know 992 00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:30,900 that it certainly they'll find me too if 993 00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:33,180 it's been emmalin jones but i've been 994 00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:34,980 the porter boy get and I'm Troy Dunn I 995 00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:36,660 should have to ego surf a bit and see if 996 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:41,070 we can he got worse that's a good 997 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:47,730 website ego search well and and what 998 00:45:52,220 --> 00:45:50,010 what book are you are you working on now 999 00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:52,230 Ben I'm I've actually started watching a 1000 00:45:56,210 --> 00:45:54,270 novel another novel I've given it the 1001 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:56,220 working title of the obscure arty 1002 00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:58,290 chronicles and it's literally 1003 00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:00,720 work-in-progress off like just really 1004 00:46:04,609 --> 00:46:02,940 getting going with it but it'll take a 1005 00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:04,619 while but hopefully when I'm next on the 1006 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:05,880 show I may be able to give you an update 1007 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:08,010 on that whether whether I'll have it all 1008 00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:09,450 published or not I don't know but I'm 1009 00:46:14,270 --> 00:46:11,790 gonna get that done and I'll keep you 1010 00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:14,280 posted without guys and you know you've 1011 00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:17,910 got you've got the best UFO travelogue 1012 00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:20,550 this is this guy here he goes through 1013 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:23,100 the streets of the streets of England on 1014 00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:25,230 the way and on a bus and under way to 1015 00:46:29,230 --> 00:46:27,620 the UFO conference with his cab 1016 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:29,240 rather than talking to people and 1017 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:33,050 interviewing everybody as he goes along 1018 00:46:38,110 --> 00:46:36,650 it's fabulous man I am I enjoy enjoy 1019 00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:38,120 your stuff because it's hard to give me 1020 00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:41,150 to watch anything except my own programs 1021 00:46:47,050 --> 00:46:44,270 of course but speaking of programs don't 1022 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:47,060 forget to look for our YouTube channel 1023 00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:50,930 mr. UFO secret files because I know 1024 00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:53,150 Peters got like four shows to put up a 1025 00:46:56,730 --> 00:46:55,040 little bit behind but we're gonna have 1026 00:46:59,500 --> 00:46:56,740 some great material some of the past 1027 00:47:01,660 --> 00:46:59,510 programs here then last the four or five 1028 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:01,670 weeks exploring the bizarre that you can 1029 00:47:09,070 --> 00:47:04,970 hear every Thursday night over kc o our 1030 00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:09,080 radio thank you Tim and Thank You Tina 1031 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:12,560 Thank You Ben thanks guys yeah Thank You 1032 00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:20,310 you've been listening to exploring the 1033 00:47:27,450 --> 00:47:24,190 bazaar with hosts Timothy Beckley and T 1034 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:27,460 Swartz they're taking back the night by 1035 00:47:32,910 --> 00:47:30,370 jetting non-stop across the cosmos in 1036 00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:32,920 search of the truly bizarre and totally 1037 00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:36,540 unexplained with you as their combined 1038 00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:39,240 Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific 1039 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:43,720 10:00 p.m. Eastern on the K cor digital 1040 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:44,910 radio 1041 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:47,520 for more information on exploring the 1042 00:47:53,090 --> 00:47:50,490 bazaars and hosts timothy Beckley and 1043 00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:53,100 team Swartz check out their kco our 1044 00:48:02,360 --> 00:47:56,310 digital radio network follow their 1045 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:02,370 YouTube channel @m our UFO 1100 explore